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GcMAF, Goleic and Bravo yoghurt

45 people describe trying GcMAF, Goleic and Bravo yoghurt (44 with ME/CFS, 1 with long COVID).

9%
recovered fully or nearly
4 of 45
42%
improved (substantial or partial)
19 of 45
16%
relapsed
7 of 45
33%
no benefit
15 of 45

How it went

Did it last?

  • 10 of 45 said the benefit wore off (including the 7 who relapsed).
  • 6 of 45 needed to keep doing it to stay well.

Read from what people wrote. A story that ends without a follow-up counts as lasting, so treat these as minimums.

Outcome describedAccountsShare
Full recovery24%
Near-full24%
Substantial49%
Partial1533%
Relapsed716%
No benefit1533%

By how ill people were

Severity at worstHow it wentnRecovered
Moderate10%
Severe650%
Very severe333%

35 accounts don’t say how ill the person was.

Who published these accounts

Sells a treatment or program2 accounts
50%
Independent (blog, forum, news)43 accounts
7%

Right-hand number: share describing a full or near-full recovery. Pages that sell something, and advocacy sites, tend to publish only the successes.

How often it comes up

Posts that mention GcMAF, Goleic and Bravo yoghurt, per 1,000 posts each year. Hover a point for the count.

02040602009201220152018202120242026
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YearPosts mentioning itAll postsPer 1,000
200901840.0
201006820.0
20115070471.0
2012881,49159.0
201391,7085.3
2014272,35211.5
2015412,15819.0
201601,4310.0
2017533,11017.0
2018552,20125.0
201961,0755.6
2020102,5813.9
202191,8674.8
202221,1661.7
202311,0001.0
202491,2377.3
202511,0191.0
2026 (so far)08400.0

Posts in the forum threads we archived, 26,806 in all, counted per year. A mention means the post names the treatment, not that the writer took it. These threads all contain a recovery story, so they show what those communities discussed, not everyone with ME/CFS or long COVID. All trends

All 45 accounts

  • I was cured with GCMAF

    Partial ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Dec 2017

    Took weekly GcMAF injections for several years, which she says "bumped up my functioning level by a couple of notches" rather than curing her. The benefit was maintenance-dependent — she had to keep injecting to keep it — and a cream version she tried…

  • I was cured with GCMAF

    Full recovery ME/CFS Very severeIll 9 years forums.phoenixrising.me Dec 2017

    After 9 years ill, severely bedbound and intolerant of touch, light, sound and movement for over 3 years, she injected Goleic (oleic-acid-conjugated GcMAF) every 4 days for just over a year, having tried many other alternative treatments without success…

  • I was cured with GCMAF

    No benefit ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Dec 2017

    Tried Natural Regenesis colostrum-based GcMAF sublingually (held under the tongue about 10 minutes). Experienced increased gut inflammation, similar to a reaction he'd had to GcMAF cream previously, and concluded plainly "GcMAF is not for me" - a…

  • Colostrum Maf

    Partial ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Dec 2017

    Took bovine colostrum powder mixed into a cocoa drink and reported "feeling better" within just 3 days. She flags the result herself as confounded, since she "also started microdosing psilocybin once every 4 days at the same approximate time, so it might be…

  • Colostrum Maf

    No benefit ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Dec 2017

    Used Dr Enlander's injectable GcMAF and developed nerve pain in his feet, leading him to discontinue. No benefit is reported before stopping; presented purely as an adverse-effect-driven discontinuation.

  • Colostrum Maf

    No benefit ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Dec 2017

    Tried injectable GcMAF for 4 months, then switched to oral Colostrum MAF for another 4-5 months. Reports "no response" from either form after roughly 8-9 months of combined use - one of the clearer null-result accounts among these threads.

  • I was cured with GCMAF

    No benefit ME/CFS Ill 4 years forums.phoenixrising.me Dec 2017

    Tried GcMAF in yoghurt (Bravo) form four years into her CFS illness. Reports "a lot of hopes, a lot of money and no effect except of the not unpleasant taste of the yoghurt" - no symptomatic improvement despite sustained cost and expectation, and no…

  • I was cured with GCMAF

    No benefit ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Dec 2017

    Tried GcMAF cream and experienced a severe inflammation reaction, describing herself as "very over reactive to things" when it comes to immune modulators. Avoided further MAF-type treatments after this reaction. No benefit was reported before the reaction…

  • I was cured with GCMAF

    Partial ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Dec 2017

    Weekly injectable GcMAF (around 25ng, from Saisei Mirai in Japan and earlier other suppliers) used for several years; "responded very well" and functioning improved "a couple of notches" without curing the illness, so continued use was needed to keep the…

  • Super Immune Activator - GcMAF by Living Technologies

    Relapsed ME/CFS Effect faded forums.phoenixrising.me Oct 2017

    Used the Living Technologies "Super Immune Activator" kit (homemade raw milk/kefir-grain GcMAF ferment with colostrum, probiotics and vitamin D3/K2, 50ml twice daily) plus GcMAF Plus cream, starting October 2017 for gut/bowel symptoms. Within days he could…

  • Bravo GcMAF Probiotic Yogurt

    Relapsed ME/CFS Effect faded forums.phoenixrising.me Oct 2015

    Used sublingual GcMAF for the recommended 6-month period, reporting it "restored immunity and stopped further tooth loss" - but says it also "triggered Systemic Lupus Erythematosis" in him. He now warns others to limit any course to 4 months maximum and get…

  • Bravo GcMAF Probiotic Yogurt

    Partial ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Oct 2015

    Took Bravo yoghurt for 2 weeks while based in Cambodia and reports it "reduced my CFS 25%ish" - a modest, quantified, partial improvement in that short window rather than a cure, with no longer-term follow-up given.

  • Bravo GcMAF Probiotic Yogurt

    Partial ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Oct 2015

    Long-term user of Bravo yoghurt who says she "found it to be invaluable in multiple areas of my physiology and life." No specific dose, duration or symptom-by-symptom detail is given, but the framing is of sustained positive benefit from continued use rather…

  • Bravo GcMAF Probiotic Yogurt

    Partial ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Oct 2015

    Used MAF314 (Bravo) yoghurt and, separately, Dr Enlander's injectable version, responding well to the MAF314 with improved physical functioning and gut symptoms. Describes it as "not a cure" but beneficial while used; the good effects "began to wear off…

  • Bravo GcMAF Probiotic Yogurt

    Partial ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Oct 2015

    Took Bravo yoghurt and GcMAF cream twice daily (morning before food, night after dinner) for his ME/CFS. Reported increased energy, reduced brain fog, deeper/more vivid sleep and more regular digestion, but says plainly "it is by no means a cure" - benefits…

  • what has worked for you

    Substantial ME/CFS Very severe forums.phoenixrising.me Oct 2014

    Over several years of self-experimentation starting from very severe illness (Bell's disability score about 10, housebound 3+ years), he found graded exercise, the Myhill protocol, the Martin Pall protocol and various detox regimens made him worse, but…

  • GcMAF spray and bravo yogurt

    Relapsed Long COVID Effect faded forums.phoenixrising.me Oct 2014

    The same patient who had a marginal-to-positive response to GcMAF/Bravo products for his ME/CFS found that after later contracting COVID and developing long COVID, the products "would flare up my Cov chest pain/tightness and general inflammation" - a clear…

  • GcMAF spray and bravo yogurt

    Substantial ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Oct 2014

    Used MAF314 (later marketed as Bravo) probiotic yoghurt for about a year, alongside concurrent Lyme treatment. At 6 months Nagalase fell from 3.9 to 2.9 and he felt better; by 12 months he felt "much better." He separately tried a GcMAF spray for 2 months…

  • Tests coming in from Dr. Bradstreet

    No benefit ME/CFS SevereIll 5 yearsEffect faded forums.phoenixrising.me 2013

    On ongoing GcMAF injections (plus an added antiviral, Cytomil, and a new antiviral regimen on Dr Bradstreet's recommendation) after 5 years of relapsing illness, including bouts "couch bound for months at a time." Bradstreet reviewed her labs (showing…

  • Did KDM's treatment help you or did you get worse?

    Partial ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Jul 2012

    Treating co-infections including Borrelia and Bartonella with a trial-and-error mix of MAF314, antibiotics, biofilm-reducing enzymes, amalgam removal and chelation, he reports "MAF314 has been working well for me," a partial ongoing improvement achieved only…

  • Did KDM's treatment help you or did you get worse?

    Partial ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Jul 2012

    Recently starting a KDM regimen of GcMAF, "4ME," lactoferrin, antibiotics, probiotics and B12, she reports "have seen an improvement" early in the course, though her disease "fluctuates a bit" and she remains financially dependent on family to continue.

  • Did KDM's treatment help you or did you get worse?

    No benefit ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Jul 2012

    Treating Lyme, Bartonella, Babesia and EBV, she reports her body "reacts terribly" to GcMAF, with worsening reactions across multiple injections that came "close to ER trips." She stopped GcMAF on her new practitioner's advice in favor of antibiotics and IV…

  • Did KDM's treatment help you or did you get worse?

    No benefit ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Jun 2012

    After 31 weeks of GcMAF injections plus Valacyclovir for reactivated EBV and gut dysbiosis, over more than a year of treatment, he reports "no improvement," a treatment failure in his case.

  • Did KDM's treatment help you or did you get worse?

    Relapsed ME/CFS SevereIll 1.5 yearsEffect faded forums.phoenixrising.me Jun 2012

    Under KDM's care for 18 months, six months of rigorous GcMAF use brought "a lot of improvement," but stopping for six months for family reasons was followed by a Lyme diagnosis that KDM was reportedly "almost excited" to find because it explained the case.…

  • Dr. success using higher doses of GCMAF

    Near-full ME/CFS SevereIll 2 years forums.phoenixrising.me May 2012

    Became ill with CFS the day after a swine flu infection in April 2010, at times needing a wheelchair in public. Escalating GcMAF from 25ng to 80ng over about 18 months, alongside MAF 878, Heppapressin, daily B12/magnesium shots and taurine, she reports she…

  • Dr. success using higher doses of GCMAF

    No benefit ME/CFS Ill 20 years forums.phoenixrising.me May 2012

    Injectable GcMAF kept to a very low maximum tolerated dose (0.15ng) after 20 years of illness, due to a strong flare/inflammation response at higher doses. Reports manageable post-injection flare-ups and fatigue at this conservative dose but avoids…

  • Dr. success using higher doses of GCMAF

    No benefit ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me May 2012

    Tried K-Maf, a homeopathic-dilution version of GcMAF, alongside another forum member who had the same reaction. Reports feeling worse while taking it (similarly to a co-poster's night sweats and severe fatigue on the same product), with improvement only…

  • Anybody improve on gcmaf alone (without hepapressin, nexavir, antivirals)?

    Partial ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Mar 2012

    Took KMAF, a GcMAF variant, for 2-3 months and reports viral antibody titers dropping to near-equivocal and NK-cell function improving. He is explicitly hedged about causation, writing "success is hard to measure" and that he cannot separate KMAF's effect…

  • Successfull GcMAF Therapy

    Substantial ME/CFS Severe forums.phoenixrising.me · sells Sep 2011

    Reports 5 months of GcMAF (2 months on a Lyme protocol, then 3 months for XMRV) let him come off supplemental oxygen and Lyme medications, wake near noon instead of 4-6pm, cook meals, take short walks and speak/converse better. He identifies himself in the…

  • Successfull GcMAF Therapy

    No benefit ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me Sep 2011

    Took 38 full doses of GcMAF and reports "nothing happened," possibly with somewhat worsened brain fog, describing himself as "back to square one." No benefit is reported despite a substantial course of treatment.

  • Successfull GcMAF Therapy

    Partial ME/CFS Effect faded forums.phoenixrising.me Sep 2011

    Took GcMAF through Dr. KDM for 8 months and reports "improving slowly" during that period. An inflammatory response forced an 8-week break, during which he relapsed, and after restarting at half dose he was still "not fully out of the bad spell" three weeks…

  • Successfull GcMAF Therapy

    Near-full ME/CFS SevereIll 17 years forums.phoenixrising.me Sep 2011

    Disabled since 1993 with energy at "30% on the Bell scale" and feeling "like a living corpse," he began weekly 100ng IV GcMAF in November 2010. His condition "improved considerably with each injection," nagalase normalized by May 2011, and by September 2011…

  • List of ME/CFS Recovery and Improvement Stories

    Full recovery ME/CFS Severe forums.phoenixrising.me · sells

    carlystar13 is listed reaching remission from severe ME/CFS after about a year of Goleic-brand GcMAF, per the compiled list.

  • Where to buy GcMAF (KDM's patient)?

    Relapsed ME/CFS ModerateEffect faded forums.phoenixrising.me

    As a Dr De Meirleir patient, took IV GcMAF at 100ng weekly for years, holding a "50-70% (variable)" functional baseline on treatment. After stopping, "my baseline has gotten significantly worse" and he became "bedridden 24/7" - a case where the drug appeared…

  • Where to buy GcMAF (KDM's patient)?

    Partial ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me

    Tried three GcMAF formulations: the original UK-manufactured injectable, a Japanese injectable, and GcMAF Plus cream. Benefited significantly from the original UK injectable version; by contrast "the japanese was not very effective for me, the cream gives a…

  • More info on GCMAF...

    No benefit ME/CFS Ill 5 months forums.phoenixrising.me

    Injectable GcMAF starting at 100ng twice weekly then reduced to once weekly, using about 3 vials over at least 5 months, with a baseline Nagalase of 2.9. Notes only a "drop in my average daily temp" as an objective change; explicitly states "I haven't really…

  • What GcMAF dose?

    Partial ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me

    As a patient of Dr De Meirleir, took weekly injectable GcMAF at 50ng in 2012, which she says "normalized my Nagalase and...improved my general condition," alongside separate antibiotic/herbal treatment for Borrelia and Bartonella co-infections between 2012…

  • [BBC] GcMAF: Unlicensed HIV drug 'nearly killed patient' (Noakes pleads guilty)

    Substantial ME/CFS Very severe s4me.info

    Uses a probiotic MAF (MAF 878, roughly $100/month) alongside dietary changes, describing the combination as putting her "into FULL remission... From bed bound to hiking up mountains." The remission is not permanent: she has "gone off and on everything that…

  • Professor Marco Ruggiero on MAF 314 -- video

    Relapsed ME/CFS Effect faded forums.phoenixrising.me

    Took MAF 878 (an oral/probiotic GcMAF product) for about one month, then stopped because of the cost of the product and its shipping. Within 3 days of stopping she "plummeted and am still trying to get back to baseline weeks later" - a sharp relapse on…

  • Gcmaf-reactions and side effects

    No benefit ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me

    On MAF (GcMAF) injections, developed a concerning sensation in the kidney area (bloodwork came back normal) plus "bad breast pain and stinging" radiating to the underarm and groin. She asked other patients whether this was a normal reaction; no improvement…

  • Gcmaf-reactions and side effects

    No benefit ME/CFS Effect faded forums.phoenixrising.me

    Started GcMAF at 1/4 dose IV, then switched to subcutaneous; developed intense lower-back burning/pain about 5-6 days after the first injection, plus sore throat and new light sensitivity. Stopped after 7 injections when insomnia developed, and slept…

  • Gcmaf-reactions and side effects

    Relapsed ME/CFS Effect faded forums.phoenixrising.me

    Monthly injections of GcMAF at 1/5 dose from a new "blue-top vial" batch produced an unusual immediate headache, and within the following week she "relapsed terribly" with daily severe depression, near-daily adrenal crashes and head inflammation. She…

  • Gcmaf-reactions and side effects

    No benefit ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me

    Took 4 injections of GcMAF and had a marked exacerbation of pre-existing burning mouth syndrome, describing the sensation as "like chili on my mouth." Labs showed low 25-OH vitamin D but elevated 1,25 vitamin D; the prescribing clinic (KDM) responded by…

  • More info on GCMAF...

    Partial ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me

    Used Japanese (Saisei Mirai) colostrum-based GcMAF for years - six months at a high dose then a maintenance dose - because the original English GcMAF was no longer available. Reports improvements in gait and joint pain beginning around 4 months on the…

  • Where to buy GcMAF (KDM's patient)?

    Partial ME/CFS forums.phoenixrising.me

    IV GcMAF used "for years with great results" at low doses (around 25ng). On one occasion took 75ng and had a severe adverse reaction, saying "I took 75 ng and felt like I was going to die," showing a narrow therapeutic window where too high a dose caused…