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Vaccines used as treatment (BCG, staph toxoid, JE)

6 people describe trying Vaccines used as treatment (BCG, staph toxoid, JE) (2 with ME/CFS, 4 with long COVID).

17%
recovered fully or nearly
1 of 6
67%
improved (substantial or partial)
4 of 6
16%
relapsed
1 of 6
0%
no benefit
0 of 6

How it went

Did it last?

  • 2 of 6 said the benefit wore off (including the 1 who relapsed).
  • No one said they needed to keep it up to stay well.

Read from what people wrote. A story that ends without a follow-up counts as lasting, so treat these as minimums.

Outcome describedAccountsShare
Full recovery00%
Near-full117%
Substantial233%
Partial233%
Relapsed117%
No benefit00%

Only 6 accounts. Treat these percentages as anecdotes, not rates.

By how ill people were

Severity at worstHow it wentnRecovered
Moderate20%
Severe250%

2 accounts don’t say how ill the person was.

How often it comes up

Posts that mention Vaccines used as treatment (BCG, staph toxoid, JE), per 1,000 posts each year. Hover a point for the count.

05102009201220152018202120242026
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YearPosts mentioning itAll postsPer 1,000
200901840.0
201006820.0
201117041.4
201201,4910.0
201301,9950.0
201402,7070.0
201502,5660.0
201612,0230.5
201703,3810.0
201802,5230.0
201901,6370.0
202003,3180.0
202112,4690.4
202221,8711.1
2023242,36210.2
202472,1763.2
202581,3495.9
2026 (so far)38993.3

Posts in the forum threads and blog comments we archived, 34,337 in all, counted per year. A mention means the post names the treatment, not that the writer took it. These pages all contain a recovery story, so they show what those communities discussed, not everyone with ME/CFS or long COVID. All trends

All 6 accounts

  • Japanese Encephalitis Vaccine article comments (Rebecca)

    Partial Long COVID healthrising.org May 2023

    Rebecca took a first dose of the oral, live-attenuated typhoid vaccine (Vivotif). Rather than the post-vaccine malaise she expected, she reported feeling "amazing" and "1,000% better." The page gives no detail on her prior illness severity or duration, or…

  • Adam's BCG Vaccination Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS) Recovery Story

    Partial ME/CFS SevereIll 22 years healthrising.org Mar 2023

    Liver derivative complex (Nexavir), given as 2ml per day by subcutaneous injection alongside hydroxocobalamin 10mg intramuscularly twice weekly, was used for about two years. He had been severely ill with ME/CFS for over two decades, at times unable to work…

  • Japanese Encephalitis Vaccine article comments (Li Ho's daughter)

    Relapsed Long COVID ModerateEffect faded healthrising.org Mar 2023

    Li Ho's daughter, as the commenter is identified, received a Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine while she had post-infection POTS with MCAS symptoms. The shot was followed by an eight-month remission in which she could exercise as she liked and eat foods…

  • Japanese Encephalitis Vaccine article comments (Suzanne)

    Substantial Long COVID healthrising.org Mar 2023

    Suzanne received the Shingrix vaccine about a month before her comment and subsequently added acyclovir. She said she was "still coasting on the huge improvement" the Shingrix vaccine gave her, though the page gives no specifics on her prior illness severity…

  • Can the Japanese Encephalitis Vaccine Reduce Symptoms of Long COVID?

    Substantial Long COVID ModerateIll 4 months healthrising.org Mar 2023

    Rachel Strohm received a first dose of the Japanese Encephalitis vaccine (Ixiaro) in April 2022, along with meningitis, typhoid and Tdap boosters, followed by a second JEV dose a week later. She had been ill with long COVID for about four months, reaching a…

  • Carl-Gerhard Gottfries: A Swedish ME/CFS Vaccine Treatment Success Story

    Near-full ME/CFS SevereIll 10 yearsEffect faded healthrising.org Nov 2015

    Carl-Gerhard Gottfries, a Swedish psychiatrist, developed prolonged post-infectious fatigue after the 1957-58 Asian Flu epidemic and eventually became bedridden and unable to work. His fatigue resolved and he resumed full psychiatric practice after starting…